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Global experience : (I)
one experience of connection betwen a place, spirits, knowledge, technologie
one big loop : going back, and looping around, 
recognizing
all the layer of things that are different ways of looking at forest
sticky with resin, and the feather

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ritual
we did go back to the wild part, we found back the tree that spoke to Karin
full circle, one circle inside, small circle around the tree
management things is trying to take care of the forest, but we ask strenght to the forest


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database anxiety : (A)
personal level, sharing that we discussed, 

BG-Base
what is the aim of creating a DB, the benefit / cost, the time, the pain that it takes, is it usefull, for something else that  memory, continuyty, overview.. 
Hans is taking care of the collection, conservation of the generic of the diversity, wich explain the volontie to create a a DB. 
Collection / forêt

looking at a forest for rentabiliy, you don't need to see every tree individually
The gardeners passioned by a particular part the plants, the ferns guy, the wet land guy, the magnolia guy... 


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open data (V)
making visible/ hiding, 
privacy of the trees. 
type of sharing and owing data, the difficulty of knowledge
voluntiers, vunerability



***dead of alive (AL)
Ghost trees in the DB

The collective burial of the labels
The degrees of aliveness of the trees : photo
the story of the blind botanist, who wanted to go on working on botany, and who developped the softaware. 



Horror storie(S)
mesuring the age of trees, and killing the oldest one in the process

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Database anxiety : 
    http://etherbox.lan/pad/p/database_anxiety

& the queering session: http://etherbox.constantvzw.org/pad/p/queeranalytics.databaseanxiety  


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Anne Laure : 
Taxonomy Taxonomy Taxonomy

http://www.bg-base.com/features.htm
Extract from the web site : 
Nomenclature and Taxonomy
One of the most important and central features of any database dealing with  biological material is its ability to handle scientific names. Scientific nomenclature  and taxonomy are inherently complex and require a sophisticated and robust data structure  to cope with the many rules and recommendations set out in the various codes of  nomenclature. In BG-BASE, they are handled by a series of fields and tables covering  taxonomic ranks from kingdoms down to subforms, grexes, and cultivars. 


When looking at Hans DB : 

Datascientist natural todo list
- add the field private / public in the first page of encoding of new items (default = public)
- go on with the encoding (back log + excel files)
- check private / public statuts of the old plants, and correct the one that should not be published
- add a query to insert new data in batch in the DB (from an excel file or a csv, in a given structure). 
- add a query to export the data directly in CSV, with a clean lay-out, and the referential
- publish on the web site the public data (with a not to precise location )
- change the licence of the software
- create reporting, for exemple with the number of new occurence/taxon between 2 dates

then analyse data : 
- Mapping of species / places
- Exploratory analysis of data
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The other version of the todo list could be
- go in the garden
- look at the trees
- what aspects of the trees are missing in the DB (add pictures, add locations, add smells)
- make a graveyard zone in the DB, with all the dead trees and their obituaries
- Find a way for the trees to access the DB (what does a tree knows about the place he is? his surrouding ?)  
- find a way for the DB to access the trees and exchange information with them (when they change statut, when their is a mistake in the encoded information)
- how to include the forest in the collection (delegation of trees? )
- how to allow the trees to change place in the domein, via the DB? Via a RfC ? (Request for Change)
- add comments from people and messages to a particular tree in the DB, via the website (formulaire)
- write the GDPR of the trees
- help a tree find the adress of another tree via the DB ? (if they want to keep contact with old friends from the nursery, for exemple)




Vesna's proposal for a contribution to the Saturday's closing ceremony:
    
    * make an exhibition of "plant material" 
    
    * Make a printout of the "formula" 
    
    

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    * give an offering of healing herbs to Hans, as a way of the "green collection" taking care of the caretaker * 


Celebrating knowledge & asking for help 

* by sharing with hackers, FLOSS volunteers & data scientists
* Vesna's suggestion in the email to Hans, to be forwarded by An (late on Friday) 

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Dear Hans,

it's Vesna here, one of the visitors from "Alchorisma" worksession. 

It was a pleasure to be in the domain you are so lovely taking care of! Thank you for making an effort to welcome us, and to share both the gardens & forests with us - and the database! 

In my opinion, you could celebrate and promote the knowledge stored in your data , by sharing it with the hackers, software developers, and data-scientists -- they could also help you in your struggles, by either giving you advice, or volunteering to write or change some code, or by analysing the data... 

I would like to hear a presentation about: why do you collect data, what is Bokrijk, short history, what is the data used for, what are the challenges of sharing the data (data format, privacy, security (against stealing)), & other limitations: not enough time for data input, not enough people with knowledge / expertese... (etc); if someone can write an API to export parts of data; how can more cooperation help you; what are other ways people can contribute... 


Here are some possible events & places where you could meet hackers & interact with them:

1. FOSDEM ( https://fosdem.org/2019/)  

In Brussels, 2 & 3 February 2019 (at ULB Campus Solbosch) - (Free & Open Source Developers’ European Meeting')

There is 32 different communities meeting there, in that many special rooms; here are some that might be of interest: 

https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/track/hpc,_big_data_and_data_science/

https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/track/community_devroom/

This is how you can reach the people who would include your talk in their programme: 
https://fosdem.org/2019/news/2018-08-10-call-for-participation/

Alternatively, if you do not want to give a presentation personally, you could delegate that to someone else...

Or, you could just "attend" the conference, and maybe meet people who could help you... 

2. Next possible events: 

Chaos Computer Club (CCC) Camp 2019: sometime in August in e Ziegeleipark in Mildenberg, Germany 

RIPE79 meeting in Rotterdam: 14-18 October 2019 

3. Smaller "events" can be organised by / at "hackerspaces" : there are many active in Belgium & Holland; you can find them here: http://hackerspaces.org  

4. I can re-publish somethign you already wrote about your work on RIPE Labs ( http://labs.ripe.net) - a blog of RIPE NCC , my employer; or I can write about it myself... (but I am not sure I will find time, or that I know enough right now...)

I hope you find something of this helpful.

If you have other

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